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	<title>Rules :: RE: New Contest Rules</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2759&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Nebojsa Stanojevic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Take an ACTICVE PART....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:35 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;This a first time i post the item on GLXP... and post it only for you...stockpotato.. I read more then necessary post from you... And one thing come to my mind... as you are active, why not utilize your time and use it for... something productive...  and useful.. for everybody...
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is your signature... did you ever consider to join any team and bring any knowledge, if you really  have any... to something useful... Or you like it this this way [ my english is not OK, but...] ...
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think about it... There is a lot of us who put our life's in to this project [ and many more projects ] but for me, you are quite .... something else... you are the most active, and most.... not useful.. sorry, but it is like that.. I read everything, so you come up very often... too often... Put your money where your moth is [ it is english saying, btw ]
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No hard feeling, but....
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Nebojsa Stanojevic
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Team Leader
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Human Synergy Moon Project [ among many other projects ]
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	<title>General Discussion :: RE: Canadian efforts?</title>
	<link>http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/viewtopic.php?p=3571#3571</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=433&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;acsete&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:22 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Hi woody,
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You are at any time welcome to join &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/lunar/teams/frednet&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Team FREDNET&lt;/a&gt; and either contribute to one of our ongoing rover design studies (currently we have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/lunar/teams/frednet/blog/jaluro-just-another-lunar-rover&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Jaluro&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/lunar/teams/frednet/blog/rover-concept-prototyping&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;WRV1&lt;/a&gt;), or simply start prototyping your own concept. A good article that describes this organizational concept has just appeared in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://openspacex.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/moon-amateurs-invite-rover-designs-from-the-public/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Open Space Exploration Journal&lt;/a&gt;. Let me know if need more info.
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	<title>General Discussion :: RE: Flying Saucer being Developed by Indian Scientist</title>
	<link>http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/viewtopic.php?p=3570#3570</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3064&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;woody&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:11 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Here is how it [Roy's device] works: Electrodes lining the vehicle’s surface ionize the surrounding air. This creates plasma on the vehicle’s exterior. An electrical current sent through this plasma generates a force that not only produces the necessary lift and momentum.
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  I may be wrong but isn't there a shortage of air to ionize on the moon or is that another secret NASA does not want us to know
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	<title>General Discussion :: Canadian efforts?</title>
	<link>http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/viewtopic.php?p=3569#3569</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3064&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;woody&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Canadian efforts?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:43 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Any team need some one to design and build a Rover? Preferably in Canada but not limited to that geographic location. Lots of experience making machines and making them work in adverse conditions.
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 Please contact me with details.
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  Richard
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	<title>General Discussion :: RE: Educational Resources</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3050&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;logolibrary2008&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:42 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Yes,it is verty useful. Thanks.
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	<title>General Discussion :: Educational Resources</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3047&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Halliday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Educational Resources&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:17 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eshopnshop.com/education-4.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Educational Resources&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; - The category of Education covers all the aspects of learning, teaching and proper accomplishment of technical proficiency. The category of Education contains a cosmic collection of books that are based on different learning styles, languages and academic education that are useful not only for children and college students but also for the professionals. Professional people from all the walk of life will find this information very useful, valuable and constructive.
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	<title>Rules :: RE: New Contest Rules</title>
	<link>http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/viewtopic.php?p=3566#3566</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=997&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;stockpotato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:14 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I'm just thinking about multiplicity. Take astrobotic for example, they are the contest leader by a long shot in terms of publicity updates. But if we had 20 astrobotics, that would be a minimum of 20*8 = 160 videos to look at each month. I would rather watch 16-32 videos per month max of higher quality than get inundated by 160 videos, some of which the teams felt they needed to produce by rote to fulfill the requirements.
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I realize the X PRIZE is an educational foundation and that a good stream of material is essential to this goal. But I would really and truly caution you about the need to reduce the requirement to 2-4 videos max per month in the interests of quality and viewability.
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As far as education goes, one problem with having so many videos from each team is that good videos that are really educational may be drowned out by the volume of miscellany being produced. I'm not trying to discourage videos, because I particularly enjoy watching them myself. But right now only a few teams are regularly producing videos. As things heat up we could get swamped with videos, and then it would be hard to be selective.
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P.S. I thought about it again like this. I'm not going to do a poll because there are not enough participants. But suppose we did a poll that asks, &amp;quot;How many team videos would you like to watch each month?&amp;quot;
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Do you really think someone is going to check the box that says 160? Because 20 teams times 8 videos a month each is 160 videos a month! I think you might find some people who check off &amp;quot;20&amp;quot; (1 video each) or &amp;quot;40&amp;quot; (2 each), but not &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;160&lt;/span&gt; (8 each)!
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Quality, not quantity. Plus, this way, instead of getting burnt out looking at a slew of videos from one team, people will be encouraged to look at videos from more teams.
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	<title>Rules :: RE: New Contest Rules</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1015&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;mike.fabio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: YouTube videos&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:11 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Is it really too excessive require 8 videos a month?  The requirements clearly state:
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&lt;ul&gt;15 minutes cumulative per month
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8 discrete videos
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4 videos of at least 30 seconds&lt;/ul&gt;
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The reasoning here is simple: produce a substantial number of videos of varied length.  You could make 15 one-minute videos, but wouldn't it be easier to make 4 one-minute videos and 4 2.5-minute videos?  You'd be surprised how easy it is to make a 2 minute video (or how difficult it is to make a video &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;less than&lt;/span&gt; 2 minutes).  At the same time, we don't want teams to create one 15 minute video per month.
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We aren't asking for documentary quality videos here; we're looking for good content.  Shoot it, upload it, watch it.  Simple as that.
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You'll see that some teams are already fulfilling this requirement, and it reflects very positively on them.[/list]
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	<title>Looking to Form a Team :: RE: Looking for French Team</title>
	<link>http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/viewtopic.php?p=3564#3564</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2640&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LAURAND Xavier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:39 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Hi guys!!
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there is our french speaking team: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glxp-france.org/index.php.&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.glxp-france.org/index.php.&lt;/a&gt; Remember that you do not have to be french, you just have to speak french!
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We just opened a forum to start working on the project. 
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Alors on vous attend avec impatience car nous avons rendez vous avec le Lune.
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	<title>Rules :: New Contest Rules</title>
	<link>http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/viewtopic.php?p=3563#3563</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=997&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;stockpotato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: New Contest Rules&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:33 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;That's a great revision, Will! It's good to see some flexibility on the Mooncasts. You've narrowed it down so much there is little left to suggest. Here are my remaining suggestions (#2 is very important for me):
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1. I recall a prohibition somewhere about getting sponsorship from tobacco companies. Is that going to be in the rules?
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2. What about teams that don't want certain logos or ads associated with their team or craft? E.g., companies that sell psychotropic drugs (caffeine, nicotine, Prozac, Paxil, Ritalin, Zyprexa, Vicodin, etc.). I think there should be a conscience clause. I don't want &amp;quot;Coke&amp;quot; to be on my rocket or in my Mooncast.
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3. With so many teams, I think having each team produce 8 YouTube videos a month is excessive. I think 2-4 per month max would be better. Otherwise, assuming all teams complied, it would just be too much. I think we need to focus on quality instead of quantity.
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	<title>FredNet :: Frednet partnership with Elphel Imaging Solutions</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1001&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;tobiokanobi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Frednet partnership with Elphel Imaging Solutions&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:18 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.frednet.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Frednet&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elphel.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Elphel Imaging Solutions &lt;/a&gt; have established a longterm partnership. Elphel Imaging Solutions is a major provider and developer of flexible high-end imaging solutions. They provide high performance cameras on free software and hardware design. Elphels philosophy fits great with Frednet, since both work and live the open source principles. 
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Frednet will catch the best possible images and videos from the moon surface with Elphel camera systems.
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	<title>I've Got an idea :: RE: Landing</title>
	<link>http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/viewtopic.php?p=3561#3561</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=568&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Phil Stooke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:45 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Chandrayaan's Moon Impact Probe struck the lunar surface a week ago - probably on the north-facing slope of Malapert Mountain, though no exact location has been announced.  ISRO have released two images taken during the descent.  I have now located them.  Here they are, superimposed on the Clementine basemap. 
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=16606&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=16606&lt;/a&gt;
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Some GLXP teams may use descent images or video to locate their landing sites.  Will we see images like these in a couple of years from a winning team?  NB - it's not as easy as it might seem to make these matches, especially if resolution and lighting are very different.
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	<title>Looking to Form a Team :: RE: Looking in India for new team members.</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3025&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;kashyap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:58 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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team name : team1india
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a team frm india is keen in joining 
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no of memebers : approximate - 15+ 
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qualifications : BE atlest 
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working on xprize since : on avg above 6 month&lt;/span&gt;
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	<title>Looking to Form a Team :: RE: OPEN MOON PROJECT Calling for Members</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3025&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;kashyap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:52 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;well i duno abt potential...unless we try it ..this is sumthin entirely new
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but we hav experienced players frm various fields!&lt;/span&gt;
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	<title>ARCA :: RE: First Spaceflight</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=997&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;stockpotato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:45 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Wow! ARCA received the same support from AGI that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;all &lt;/span&gt; the GLXP teams have received! What a &amp;quot;fascinating&amp;quot; end to the year! ARCA has really come through as promised!  &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Rolling Eyes&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The progresses that we have made until now are substantial and we anticipate a fascinating end of year.&amp;quot;--ARCA, Sept. 20, 2008.
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This is the team I'm rooting for??? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/images/smiles/icon_question.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Question&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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I thought we were supposed to see Stabilo fly.
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You've got to admit, though, that ARCA's picture of the ELE engine test is pretty fancy, with the logo in the upper right hand corner and the lettering.  &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/forum-glxp/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Cool&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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By now they've probably been getting laid in Romania (I think all but the leader is single) and so they figure there's no hurry. No need to milk the cow too fast, eh, ARCA?
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